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Microsoft Sharepoint Equals The Old Lotus Notes ?

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Michelle Savage, of Systems Management, has written about Sharepoint as the "New Lotus Notes?" Well, I think there is a point to be made that Sharepoint has more in common with the old Notes , than the current version.

In addition, CMS Watch said that large enterprises face various challenges with SharePoint, as the controls that enterprises would want to see simply don't exist natively within the platform. "Whether it's the lack of a workflow-based provisioning process, or enterprise-level administration, or the ability to effectively categorize large numbers of documents or PowerPoint slides, SharePoint remains ill-suited to enterprise-wide collaboration and knowledge management," said CMS Watch analyst Alan Pelz-Sharpe.


She does go on to criticize Lotus Notes, as well, and ties up with the promise of Google Docs. But, I do think that the allure of Sharepoint is reminiscent of the early generations of Lotus Notes. I also think that IBM has moved on, embraced open standards, and Notes today is a much more capable and cost effective solution than a Sharepoint platform.

My first Notes installation was 3.x on a Novell Netware 3.12 server. It was LAN mail with some neat-o, but simple, applications. And, it was life in a bubble, where we all talked to ourselves. Doing something complex usually required expensive consultants.

Now, I'm using Notes on Linux, Windows, AIX. I'm running Lotus Sametime IM (Network World rated #1) and it's capable of supporting our Notes clients, connecting to public IM networks (for free), and our subsidiaries that rely on Outlook.

When I weigh out Sharepoint against Lotus Notes, I'm really comparing platform stacks, just like I would with JBoss and BEA. I just don't find the Sharepoint platform stack providing the same flexibility, security, stability or scalability that I find in Notes.

I'm interested to see what Savage will think of Notes 8.5.

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Gravatar Image5 - Being pedigreed can be the hallmark of maturity and stability. Or, it might just mean that Notes is a war hero that is old enough for retirement. Which is it?

To answer that question, I have to do what I've always done with any technology, and continually test it, build on it, and prove it. I never want to attend dwindling Lotus conferences, that are housed next to the FoxPro conventions.

Right now, Sharepoint has the mind share for the SMB. What do you think needs to happen for the VAR channel to see money with Lotus Notes?



Gravatar Image4 - How can you compare a product with 18+ years of application development history (all of which still works - even in V8), with a "new kid on the block" like Sharepoint?

I had someone today point out the marvels of one of my IT Manuals which is full of useful data. I amazed even myself when I replied that "Oh, that's actually a 15 year old application that I've taken with me from one job to another".

Gravatar Image3 - I always enjoy learning how to translate the phrase "crock of shit" into new languages.

I was wondering how long it'd be before the "Notes is dead" people would seize on ShitPoint and decide this, at last, was the Notes Killer. It ain't happened yet.

Notice also that they focus on SharePoint regarding its suitability for small-to-medium-size organizations, but that it's pretty hopeless for large organizations. I mean, REALLY hopeless. We're starting to see that now, in my day job, where SharePoint has been installed for a few months and these clowns are confident they'll supplant an 8000-user QuickPlace installed base that's been running quite nicely for years. All they really wanted was something that would do what Exchange Public Folders promised to do more than a decade ago, and could never do.Emoticon

Gravatar Image2 - Oh, absolutely. By "platform stack" I was co-opting the term as it's been used for LAMP (Linux, Apache, MySQL, PHP/PERL/PYTHON) and other systems. I kind of assumed the terminology would carry the meaning, but I can see that it was too obtuse. Ed Brill does a great job of breaking out the infrastructure and licensing costs between MS and IBM.

Gravatar Image1 - If you compare stacks, you need to compare the full stack of Notes+Domino (+Apps) vs. Outlook+Exchange+Sharepoint (+Extensions) to be fair.

This does not make the comparison better for the MS offering, but would be transparent and fair.

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